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Post by darthminister on Apr 4, 2006 16:35:37 GMT -5
Alright.. so i've spent many an hour now listening to some "indie" stuff. Some Christian.. some not, but here's a list of stuff that I dig.
Family Force 5 - these guys rule. The funkiest bunch of southern rockers I've ever heard. They are Kiss, Queen, Rage Against the Machine and Beastie Boys thrown in a blender. I don't know how to classify them really... Rock, Hip-Hop, 80's Electronica, Screamo, Grungey Funk Band.. how's that?
Andy Gullahorn - thanks for the vine.. really really enjoy his lyrics and simple music
Copeland - "Love is a fast song" is sweet. I really enjoy these guys
Eels - Very very, "Beck-ish" funky creations made by one dude.. a different sound
The Myriad - Emo Rock that reminds me of Copeland and Radiohead
Mute Math - reminds me of coldplay but with a kick and w/o the cult following
1000 Generations - sort of Caedmon's Call meets Worship Circle
Tammi Rhoton - Ok so this is sort of a shameless plug for an old friend, but I'd do it for Greg too.. and btw... she's amazing. Indigo Girls meets Reba and Dolly and Jewel.
Sullivan - good emo rock... they're on Tooth n Nail, but they're still pretty Indieish if you ask me
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Post by kagomeshuko on Apr 6, 2006 8:50:57 GMT -5
I don't think Mute Math is Indie. I think they are with a label. . .
However, I'm not an expert on them. . .just what I had thought. *shrug*
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Post by darthminister on Apr 7, 2006 8:37:00 GMT -5
Mute Math is on Teleprompt, which is a smaller label. They've made some appearances here and there on tv too so maybe they're not true "indie" b/c they aren't starving artists per se. I actually found out that FF5 is now on Gotee even though their myspace has them as indie. Those guys are freaky. Under their influences, they have Jesus right before Beastie Boys, Rage ... and Public Enemy...lol.
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Post by darthminister on Apr 20, 2006 11:37:28 GMT -5
Anybody ever heard Andy Zipf? He's a solo acoustic guy that I like. He's got a unique voice. His song "Last to know" kind of reminds me of Paige / Plant's "Gallow's Pole". He's good stuff.
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Post by kagomeshuko on Apr 20, 2006 22:42:35 GMT -5
Mute Math is on Teleprompt, which is a smaller label. They've made some appearances here and there on tv too so maybe they're not true "indie" b/c they aren't starving artists per se. I actually found out that FF5 is now on Gotee even though their myspace has them as indie. Those guys are freaky. Under their influences, they have Jesus right before Beastie Boys, Rage ... and Public Enemy...lol. Well, you don't have to be a STARVING artist to be indie. If you couldn't tell, Lost And Found is my favorite Indie band (not to mention favorite band). They aren't starving. They manage to make a living writing and playing music. That's pretty cool - and they have no record label (Limb is their own creation), no manager (they hired the guy that handles booking and whatnot, he's my friend and my e-mail buddy!) Jonathan Rundman is another favorite of mine. However, LAF has never been on TV. Being closely tied with the Lutheran church, though, they do a lot for the Lutheran Publishing Companies. More and more people are discovering the music and writing studies based on the songs, too. Sooo. . .it just all comes down to connections again, it seems. Starving or not. . .but. . .having a "smaller" label (not self-owned/family owned) would not, at least to me, make a band/artist an indie band. A tiny clip of JR's music has been on The Ellen DeGenerous Show. Stein Auf! Bridget
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Post by darthminister on Apr 21, 2006 9:19:31 GMT -5
How to determine what's Indie...?... Here's what I see in the music biz..obviously Greg has a closer view so if you wish Greg, please correct me. Artists like Greg, Tammi Rhoton, etc. are truly indie b/c they have not signed with anyone. They may get someone else to produce the albums for them but they aren't on a contract. Then there are bands that are on labels but the label itself is considered an indie label (militia group, teleprompt, sixstep records, etc.) I wouldn't classify Crowder or Tomlin as Indie, but the label is for some reason, IDK. The major labels are easy to spot (Columbia, EMI, etc.) but you get all these tiny labels that are really nothing more than a group of friends with some sound equip' in their basement that came up with a catchy title. There's literally thousands of labels now and it's too difficult to tell which are tied into a real biz and which are self promoted. Does that clear up where I'm coming from some?
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Post by Jonathan Rundman on Apr 21, 2006 9:51:22 GMT -5
Hey guys, show some love. No need to quibble over a music label.
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Post by Greg adkins on Apr 21, 2006 10:53:48 GMT -5
Don't label me!!!!
Seriously though... I'm not sure the point of all this... I mean, There is a lot of great music I really like that came out on major labels... there is some great music I like that is totally indie as well. I'm not anti-label at all... I understand the function they serve. If a label came at me and wanted to sign me would I listen? Sure I would... I'm not a snob to the point that I wouldn't hear what they had to say... but I wouldn't sign my life away either.
Great music is great music... I think the trend is going to be more and more towards people doing it themselves. Mainly because it's just so much easier now than it used to be... you can start a website, a myspace, build a fanbase through the internet, distribute your music online, all of that.
The one thing I see that labels can do is to kind of control the culture... all labels really do is tell everyone what to like... decide who is going to be cool, get you in stores, on the radio, on MTV, etc, etc... that's a world where very, very few will ever go, so I just don't worry about any of that stuff. I mean, all you have to do is look at me and you'll know I'll never fit in there.
Just some rambling thoughts...
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Post by kagomeshuko on Apr 21, 2006 13:20:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure the point of all this I think the point was simply to discuss what each of us considered indie music. ... I mean, There is a lot of great music I really like that came out on major labels... there is some great music I like that is totally indie as well. I'm not anti-label at all... Same here. all labels really do is tell everyone what to like That's the one thing I don't like about labels - I'm gonna like what I like, I don't want to be told what I should like or why I should like it. I usually don't like what they are trying to push. Stein Auf! Bridget
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Post by jamie on Apr 23, 2006 22:27:36 GMT -5
I read a fascinating article a few weeks ago focusing on authors who self-publish their books, and printing companies who print on demand. You can find their books on Amazon, and when you order it, it sends a request to the printer, they print one up quick, looking like any other normal book, and ship it out to you. They said that this was a huge trend in the publishing world, and it would open up the industry to a lot of authors who normally wouldn't have free access to getting their work out to the public. Seems like there are a lot of similarities in the music world, and everyone benefits.
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Post by jamie on Apr 23, 2006 22:28:25 GMT -5
(Dude, she's already up to "Vice President of Cool"! I can't compete with that!)
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Post by darthminister on Apr 24, 2006 8:59:23 GMT -5
I think that Greg and Bridget hit the nail on the head for me. Labels have a huge say in what's popular. I'm not anti-label either, but I think that's a lot of the reason that I almost never listen to the radio anymore. The same stuff played, played and replayed. Even the great songs get driven into the ground in about a week. Meanwhile, there's so much great music out there that never gets air time.
My car stereo use to be my only real link to the music world. That's why I screwed up thinking Jack Johnson was indie. Until recently I'd never heard him on radio. It's one of those weird things b/c now I can't stop hearing him, seeing his videos, ads, and I even saw him on Austin city Limits a week ago.
I've been like a kid in a candy store recently grabbing up as much new music as possible that isn't radio friendly. I still go after some radio stuff that I like, but for the most part i love finding stuff off the mainstream, indie or not.
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Post by jeph on Apr 24, 2006 16:09:16 GMT -5
So we're kinda saying now that Independent Music is really just music and musicians that are self maintained and not under any control of a label? I like that description. It's not saying much about the music, just that it really depends on how much control the actual songwriters and musicians have on their careers.
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Post by kagomeshuko on Apr 24, 2006 23:16:24 GMT -5
(Dude, she's already up to "Vice President of Cool"! I can't compete with that!) Hmm, I don't know that you WANT to compete with that. Might be equal to too much time on my hands. (Kinda is, but is more like, go to boards when bored with other things!) Stein Auf! Bridget
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Post by kagomeshuko on Apr 24, 2006 23:21:34 GMT -5
So we're kinda saying now that Independent Music is really just music and musicians that are self maintained and not under any control of a label? I like that description. It's not saying much about the music, just that it really depends on how much control the actual songwriters and musicians have on their careers. It'd be nice if it was always that way. I know that it's nice for bands to be independent when they do what THEY want to do rather than what a label wants them to do. The label will tell them the type of thing that they want at times. The label doesn't like it? It's not gonna make it. Sometimes. There are some compromises from some. . .but it can be entirely controlled by the label. So, it'd be nice to say that, but it's not always so true. Musicians are going to write what they want, of course. However, ones signed to a label have to do what the label wants - tours, albums, etc. Stein Auf! Bridget
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